that's all for us. tomorrow, anderson cooper holds a special town hall, guns under fire. we'll follow it with much, much more on the number one issue facing america. that's tomorrow night. anderson cooper starts right now. piers, thanks. good evening, everyone. it's 10:00 here on the east coast and tonight on the program, be it was as powerful moment as you could have imagined. gabby giffords back on capitol hill today. she spoke on a subject that was difficult. keeping them honest tonight. why figuring out what the right thing to do is so difficult. and a terrifying moment at the winter x games. another incident your a snowmobile went careening into spectators and why people are taking a closer look at extreme

sports. right now a 6-year-old with asberger's syndrome who needs medication being held by a suspected killer. he is being held in a bunker. he is said to be a 65-year-old man, due in court today in connection with a run in last december with neighbors. instead, he is in that bunker in the yard. he stepped onto a school bus demanding two boys. he shot the driver. he is being hailed as a hero tonight. the gunman got away with one child. also with us. cnn's george howl how well is on the seen with us and byron sage and because the suspect allegedly holds extremist views,

george, you're on the ground there. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, anderson, first and foremost, the welfare of this 6-year-old boy. investigators came out to announce that they don't believe that he has been hurt or harmed in anyway. that is very good news. they say the negotiations with jimmy dikes are still on going. we learned some interesting stuff. anderson. >> yeah, with the charge, not in court today and this bunker has been there going on day two and three. so as the negotiator you talk about trying to build repore. how do you do that with someone that neighbors say is paranoid. where he allegedly shot at somebody. >> the negotiators need to

recognize that but set it aside that you can't let that, you can't be predisposed to put a character to this individual and let it manifest itself through dialogue. if he has these kind of issues paranoia and so forth, he has a story. obviously he would until have initiated this action and taken the course of action that he has done unless he wanted to put across some sort of statement. it will be the negotiator' s responsibility as they try to get this emotionality down and allow him to be more realistic. >> reporter: this situation continues hour by hour. we saw a new group of investigators who came in, they continued to relieve each other. just to make sure that everyone is here in place to watch this situation 24 hours as this continues. >> this alleged gunman apparently did not know the boy that he abducted. why is that so important? >> it's key because an individual is known previously. there's a much higher potential exposure to violence. here it would appear that this individual boy was taken in a

classic hostage so that it's very important situation. >> what about the people who live near here or are on the scene? >> patience. patience for the negotiation team to develop a rapport and trust with the individual that has taken the hostage and that only comes with time. >> mark, i know jim lee dikes was not on their radar. what are they telling you tonight? >> well, they told us, these are investigators in the hood county -- the dale county sheriff's office, is that this man was quite well known to his neighbors for holding apparently quite strong anti-government views, whatever that may mean precisely. and also that he was known as a

survivalist. the chief investigator described him as anti-america, this according to neighbor. he also talked about what a loner he was. he had virtually no contact with people around him. and that's about what we heard. what we've not been able to do is connect this man to any group that we know of. >> george, what have you been hearing from neighbors, people in the area about this man's behavior? it seems like what mark is saying, this guy was pretty well known. >> reporter: anderson, we spoke to jimmy davis. he's a neighbor nearby. he described dikes as being paranoid, certainly a vietnam vet but a person who believed in alien and alien abductions. davis and dikes were supposed to be in court today for an incident that happened back in december. this is a confrontation between the two them, a situation where dikes became upset and davis said he pulled a pistol on him. take a listen to this. >> he pulled a pistol out and by the time i seen the pistol, i

took off on the truck pulling the trailer and i made it ten foot and he fired the gun twice. >> reporter: so davis was in his pickup truck with his mother, with his young daughter, and this happened. so this is a situation where people who know dikes, they say, that there were signs all along that he might be unstable, anderson. >> and he was due in court for that incident? >> reporter: yeah. it was a charge of menacing. again, not in court today. this bunker has been there for two days, going on day three. we hate to see it drag out. >> you talk about having rapport and building trust, how do you say that to someone who neighbors say is paranoid and has a court case where he allegedly shot at somebody? >> first of all, the negotiators need to recognize it and set it

aside. you can't be predisposed to put a character to this individual and manifest itself through a dialogue. if he has these kinds of issues, paranoid and so forth, he has a story. obviously would not have initiated this action, taken the course of action that he's done until he wanted to put across some sort of statement, it will be the negotiator's responsibility to try to draw that out as they get his emotionality down and allow him to become more rational. >> byron, the fact that this has gone on to day two, be does time work in the law enforcement's favor? >> this is a true hostage situation. it's not a sued dpseudo hostage

situation. so the passage of time is incredibly important and, frankly, i think the family hopefully can take a little a little positive aspect from that fact. he's allowed them to deliver medication. he's provided him -- particularly if the boy requests the coloring book and so forth and then allowed that to be delivered, those are huge indicators of progress. >> well, that is certainly good news to end on tonight. we'll continue to keep our eye on this. you can be call me on twitter speas@andersoncooper. the question is, where are

the solid nonpartisan facts and why are they so hard to come by? we're keeping them honest? and also police commissioner ray kelly is here. and football great ray lewis. there's another chapter, a much darker one to the ray lewis story. we'll tell you about it when we continue. [ woman ] when you own your own business,

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killing a school bus driver. those are two headlines from today. there have been others recently. some far worse of course. how big a role, if any, does easy access to firearms play in violent crimes like these? how do we really know what the true facts are? now, are both sides building their cases on shaking factual ground? today in testimony before the senate judiciary committee, gabby giffords spoke of the need for action. >> thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans, speaking is difficult but i need

to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. thank you. >> she spoke from handwritten notes posted on the facebook bulletin.

commander kelly responding that background checks do not need to be made universal. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> the nra position, though, and shared by many people, is that criminals would still be able to get and use firearms that banning high-capacity magazines would similarly not work, such as the ones used in newtown and elsewhere. both sides used the assault weapons ban to make their case. >> the independent studies, including one from the clinton justice department, prove that it had no impact on lowering crime. >> the department of justice report assault weapons as a percentage of gun -- of gun traces. we chose a 70% decline. >> gun bans do not work.

>> i've been in law enforcement for nearly 35 years and i've seen an explosion of firepower. victims are being riddled with multiple gunshots. >> reenact a law that according to the department of justice did absolutely nothing to reduce gun violence. >> the 1994 assault weapon ban did not stop columbine. the justice department found the ban ineffective. >> you might hear all those sides and both sides cannot be right. the problem is, there's really no clear-cut way of telling who is. not just because each side accuses the other of schar ree picking the data. the problem is that there's not enough research to draw conclusion. take a look at a november report on the existing body of knowledge. they quote, none of the existing sources of statics provide either comprehensive, timely, or accurate data with which to assess definitively whether

there's a cause can of connection between firearms and violence. and a big reason for that scars tea of ree search, congress under pressure from the gun lobby doesn't pay for it. take a look from 1993 to 1996, congress allocated about $2.5 million so the cdc could study gun violence. since 1996, the money has dried up, averaging just $100,000 a year over the last three years and a budget of nearly $6 billion. having said all of that, the lack of definitive research has not stopped policy makers and community makers from doing what they can in the struggle against gun violence and learning as they go go. few know that more than ray kelly who joins me now. you point to the fact that new york handguns are a problem that you see on the streets. will anything in the current debate about gun control legislation, whether it's limiting high-s capacity magazines, be will that limit the lethality? >> i think it it can have some

effect but there's no easy answer to the problem. i think universal background checks, if they are done properly, if there's sufficient data in the databases can make a difference. the major problem for new york city and for other cities in america is the concealable handgun. >> so when -- i mean, everybody is focusing on semiautomatic assault-type rifles, automatic rifles. are you opposed to a ban on that? >> oh, no. absolutely not. i think it's a good thing. but the impact in new york city will be minimum. >> like 1, 2% of -- >> yeah. it's about -- it was less than 3% and the indications are it may even be less than that. >> the nra said very clearly, look, existing laws on background checks are not being enforced. the number of people who lie -- people aren't prosecuted if they lie. if they turn out to be felons and lie and aren't telling the truth, do they have a point? >> yeah, they do have a point.

but also there's been legislation that's been passed that limits the holding of that information, the information that is used to trick someone to 24 hours. so the government is restricted, the federal government is restricted on how effectively they can do an investigation. >> is it an either/or argument? they are saying criminals will never submit to background checks so you don't need more background checks. you just need to execute existing laws. >> right. >> they are saying it's either/or. >> it's not either/or. you can do both and it makes sense to me to do both. >> what do you make of their argument that criminals will not submit to background checks? how big of a problem is this, the gun show loophole? that private dealers can sell -- >> it's not just gun shows. it's estimated that 40% of begins that are sold are sold without any sort of registration or background check.

that amounted to about six million guns last year. that's a tremendous universe of guns and i think it will deter criminals from buying guns if you have to -- again, it's not an easy answer. there's no magic bullet here but i think each one of these pieces can help to reduce the problem. never -- never -- new york city and other big cities are going to have to face the problem of handguns on our streets for a long time to come. >> where do the guns come from? new york city has gun laws. >> 90% of the guns come from out of state. we call it the iron pipeline. >> isn't part of the problem with these background checks also the fact that states have not been living up to their obligations? >> absolutely. >> the states have not been giving drug data to the national database? very haven't even given national health or arrest data.

>> apparently some states think that there are privacy issues when there really aren't. some states have held on to as much as 600,000 records in terms of mental incapacity, if you will. now that flow is beginning to -- is beginning to move as a result of all of the attention on the issue. >> do you think something has changed after newtown? do you think there is enough will? do you think there will be some sort of legislation or at least stricter gun background checks? >> i think there will be something but i'm not optimistic that it's going to be major change. as long as the can is kicked down the road, we're going to have less and less chance of getting a change. >> do you see a reason why some folks should have semiautomatic, you know, military-style weapons? >> i really don't. i don't see a logical reason for

military-style weapons or clips with 30 rounds of ammunition. you can certainly hunt when something is a smaller capacity. i think the so-called assault weapons, they scare people. they are really weapons of war. general mcchrystal has said that. having said that, we're going to have them with us for a long time to come. >> what about the idea of arm arming people in schools? is that something from a police standpoint you worry about? >> i don't think it would be the right way to go. it would take a lot of resources to do that. that amount of money and resources could be better spent on a lot of different ways, even additional police officers. to move to have armed officers or armed security guards in schools, i think would be -- a tremendous -- not waste but be a

tremendous investment of resources that could be better spent than in other places. >> interesting. commissioner kelly, thank. good to be with you. a quick programming note, tomorrow night we're gathering people from all sides about the gun debate for a 360 televised town hall from washington, d.c. it airs at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. tomorrow night. we'll try to cut through the noise and the politics of this. we're going to bring you information that makes a difference. tweet us using gundebate360. we may read your tweet on air. that's tomorrow night, 8:00 and 10:00 eastern. just ahead, deadly storms raking the southeast. incredible pictures of a tornado caught on camera. it's a big storm sweeping the system. chad myers will bring us the latest. also, the alleged rape that's dividing an ohio town. will the high school boys charged get the change of venue

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welcome back. terrifying day for folks in the southeast. winter tornadoes killed at least two people, injured nearly 20. imagine seeing this outside your window. that twister touched down in adairsville, georgia. buildings destroyed, people trapped in the rubble, cars overturned. authorities were forced to shut down interstate 75 at one point. thousands of people lost power. this has been hammering the country from michigan to the coastline. chad myers is joining us. is this strange to be seeing tornadoes in january, chad? >> good question. there's about 40 tornadoes every year in january on average.

the follow the jet stream. follow where the jet stream is. it's down here. if you move up into february and march, by tornado alley standard, by april and may you are here. in june and july you can get tornadoes up into canada because that's where the jet stream is. not unusual but 40 every year on average. today we got about 10. that's obviously more than average for the day. >> and the big swings in temperature, well below freezing last week, much cooler again in a couple of days, how ordinary is that? >> it was 5 degrees in new york city six days ago. today, newark, new jersey, got to 64. that's a 59-degree swing because of where you were in the jet stream. when the jet stream comes down like this, all the cold air from canada and from the north keeps oncoming on down.

but if the jet stream turns to the north like this, all of the warm air comes up and that's what has happened in the past couple of days. it's come on up to the northeast. >> chad, appreciate that. our thoughts with people in the path of these storms. a lot more happening tonight. let's check in with randi kaye in the 360 bulletin. >> a judge has changed the venue in the rape trial that has divided a town. pictures surfaced on social media and led to the arrest of two high school football players. the judge also ruled that the trial will be opened to the media and public. both defendants are minors. u.s. officials say israeli fighter jets suspect a syrian convoy believe to be moving weapons to hezbollah in lebanon. the overall strike occurred along the syrian border. israel targeted a research facility, says syria. massachusetts governor duval patrick has named william cowan

to fill john kerry's senate seat. kerry steps down this week. and coming to a post office near you, johnny cash. the u.s. postal service is honoring the legendary music singer. they'll release it later this year. >> that's cool. >> anderson, i guess it's a pretty big deal. the postal service gets 40,000 suggestions for stamps every year and narrow it down to 20 and johnny cash wins it. >> everybody likes johnny cash. thank you. ray lewis is going to play his last nfl game on super bowl sunday. he seems to be on his way to the hall of fame but 13 years ago he was on a established for murder. just when you thought the manti te'o story kobt get any more involved, it has. the california man fell in love with te'o while pretending to be his girlfriend. wait until you hear what else

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well, super bowl sunday is this weekend. the ravens and 49ers, probably didn't need to tell you that. for ray lewis, it's going to be his last game in the nfl. he crushed his way through the playoffs making 44 tackles, more than any other players, remarkable. besides his raw talent, he's known for this dance which his vans reveefed him. he wears his spirituality on his sleeve, literally. there is another chapter of his past that's never far away. for the first time, one of the

men involved in an ugly incident speaks out about what really happened the night lewis' life nearly ended. >> reporter: his life nearly ended 13 years ago outside the cobalt lounge in atlanta just after the 2000 super bowl. a fight breaks out and when the dust settles, yas son baker and richard luller are stabbed to death. ray lewis and two friends are charged with murder. what unfolded next is a mesmerizing saga and the truth is as elusive as ever, as you're about to see. >> i haven't been back to this area since that incident happened. >> reporter: this is the first time rej nald has talked on camera about that night. oakley has written a book which he is eager to sell. he says he was leaving the club with lewis when the two victims started arguing with their group. jason baker broke a champagne

bottle over oakley's head and then it was mayhem. >> i had no idea that nobody had gotten stabbed or nothing like that. >> reporter: so you didn't stab him in. >> no, i didn't stab him. >> reporter: so how did the guy end up with stab wounds? >> you'll have to read the book to find out. >> reporter: they piled into a limo and sped off. >> i was never really clear how two guys end up in a fight with two other guys and two of them end up dead. right? no one's ever convicted. and how they ended up with stab wounds. >> what does that mean? somebody stabbed you. >> reporter: right. but you're saying you weren't the one that stabbed him? >> correct. >> reporter: so who could have stabbed him? are you saying you know somebody did it there are a lot of people that's why i wrote the book. >> you know everyone watching that is going to think it's a

really weird answer. >> i think it's an appropriate answer. >> if that's the way you want to play it. >> reporter: we'll come back to rej nald oakley. there's another side of the story you've probably never heard before. the story of what ray lewis was wearing that night. there were eyewitnesss and a cover-up of lies that would prove guilt. the limo driver heard them stabbing but the men denied it. and lewis yelled at everyone to keep their mouths shut and not say anything and that my football career is not going to end like. this but the white suit ray lewis was wearing that night has never been found. prosecutors suspect it was stained in the victim's blood and someone took the knives and suit and through them all away, which brought us to ed garland, ray looewis' attorney. >> where is the suit he was wearing that night? >> it went to the cleaner and

was in the suits that went in his closet. the prosecution didn't do the things they needed to do to get access to the suit. >> reporter: so it exists somewhere? >> i don't know that it exists now. >> reporter: prosecutors denied our requests for interview about this story. the murder trial crumbled on live television. witnesses backtracked on their stories, defense attorneys advice rated the credibility of many witnesses. it got so bad that prosecutors had to drop the murder charges in the middle of the trial and offer him a plea deal. lewis pled guilty to obstruction of justice in exchange for testifying against sweeting and oakley. even that didn't help. both men were acquitted. ray lewis says he was the peace maker but oakley says that wasn't the case. >> reporter: was ray involved in the fighting? >> in my opinion, yes. i don't know if he was wrestling or fighting but i know that he was right in the mix there with

everybody else. >> reporter: because his lawyer and his side has said, he was trying to be the peace maker in that situation. >> i didn't see that. when the police asked him what happened, he wouldn't, you know, come clean. >> he was not involved in the fight, he didn't cause it, he didn't take an angt, a step, a statement to make this happen. he was no more guilty than the other 100 people on the street. >> reporter: no one has ever been convicted in the deaths of jason baker and richard waller. for greg wilson, it angers him to see ray lewis basking in the glow of football and redemption. >> redemption? stop talking like you're one of the people coming out of the bible. >> reporter: so you think on this day that ray lewis knows what happened that night? >> oh, yeah. i hope it haunts them for the rest of their life until they die and then until they burn in hell. >> reporter: the most painful irony is for greg wilson that

ray lewis will likely be forever immortalized in the football hall of fame not far from where richard and were laid to rest. >> this guy oakley says he didn't kill him. who does he think killed these guys? >> well, some of these guys -- remember, the stories have been so convoluted and so many different versions. the victims' families are left with wondering who tells the truth. but oakley points to two people and some other people have said that were never probably vetted by prosecutors and investigators at the time. so it doesn't say that those two people were responsible but kind of puts the doubt that way. the bottom line is, it was oakley and sweeting and lewis himself that were in there with baker and laller and as soon as it was over, those two men were left dead in the street. wisdom tells you it had to be somebody in that group. there were never any witnesses

who saw someone brandish a knife. or any credible witnesses. some of these witnesses were simply discredited on the witness stand. no one ever came forward and said, i saw the knife and saw who had the knife. >> also this guy oakley doesn't do himself any favors by constantly just trying to pitch his book by not answering the questions. >> no question. it was a rough interview. and it was interesting because he hasn't really spoken publicly about that night in 13 years. but, you know, he says he's trying to clear his name. he walks away and says, look, at the end, they feel vindicated that a jury acquitted them, the prosecutors dropped the charges against ray lewis. >> clear his name and sell some books. thanks, ed lavandera. a snowmobile accident and he wasn't hurt. it didn't hit anybody else until it careened into a crowd of

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the x games featuring extreme sports are under scrutiny. a freestyle skier suffered a spinal fracture and snowboarder got a concussion and a snowmobiler was lucky he wasn't hurt in this accident. take a look at this. the snowmobile got away from him and veered off into a crowd of fans. the throttle was still on.

the boy who hurt his knee was taken for an evaluation. thankfully it did not hit anyone in the crowd. i spoke to jack about the safety of the games. >> jacko, i'm glad that you and everybody in the crowd is okay. how did it go so wrong? >> unfortunately, when i was in the air with that trick, the rear brake on the sled, i kind of pushed off my left handle bar to spin around and my rear brake is right there and i accidently tapped it. because of the jarring effect when you hit your brake in the air, it actually dived forward. i had no option but to aboard ship and sent me cat scratching through the air trying to find my feet and luckily landed on my feet and dodged the snowmobile. i was so glad that it didn't hit anyone in the crowd. i definitely would have been -- don't think i could live with

someone being hurt from my snowmobile going into the crowd. my mom was standing right there, too. i was just watching her face as it was heading for the fence. >> this may be a dumb question but when you're flying through the air like that, what's going through your mind? does it feel slow? does it feel fast? what's happened? >> for someone who has been in a near car accident or something like that, when you get that vision of everything slowing down and i guess the adrenaline sets in and you think, okay, i've got -- this is pretty much make or break. i've got to find my feet here so i can take this landing as best i can and i'm a dirt bike rider by trade. i've crashed too many times on the hard dirt landing or concrete. it's kind of comforting knowing that there was snow underneath me and definitely felt a lot better than what it does coming down on the hard dirt like it is.

>> you could have also been hit by the snowmobile. >> i was lucky that i didn't have to get hit by the sled and i'm lucky it didn't get away from me. >> do you think -- there's some criticism that there's not enough protection for spectators. do you think there needs to be more or that it's pretty safe? >> i think it's pretty safe. i think maybe some things could be done but this was a freak accident. it's pretty rare that it would find its way back on tos track and drive itself towards the crowd t was pretty much a freak one off thing. >> i also want to ask you about caleb moore. do you know how he's doing? >> yeah. he's in icu still and i've been speaking with his manager and family. he's still in critical condition. that's all i can say at the moment. we are lucky enough that i've done shows with caleb all around the world in the last few years

and luckily, rock star energy drink has come forward and they are -- we are going to auction off misled throuand all of the from that are going to be going towards caleb to help out with his recovery. >> certainly wish him the best. i'm glad that you are okay and folks in the crowd were okay as well. jacko strong, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. in tonight's "american journey" how a football game got to be a multimillion dollar industry. they are predicting a record-breaking year for the number of people who will be watching and the amount of money that they will be spending. tom foreman reports. ♪ >> reporter: the numbers expected from the big name are staggering. 179 million fans will likely watch, almost eight million will buy new tvs and total spending

for wings, beer, pizza, and more, will top $12 billion. so how do we get there from here? this is believed to be the oldest film of a college football match, princeton and yale in 1903. at that time a version of the game had already been played for 30 years but football as we know it was just beginning its american journey. >> we're talking about a period when the game was being played in college and maybe 2% of americans were even going to college. >> michael is a former nfl player turned author and college professor. >> why would they care about what the boys are doing with their spare time? the popular press transformed the game into this popular spectacle. >> reporter: through hyperventilating accounts, newspaper readers were drawn into a competitive world so violent that horrendous injuries and even fatalities were common. the game was so wild, many wanted it banned outright, prompting theodore roosevelt, a

fan, to plead with organizers to tone it down. he succeeded and football has grown ever since. not terribly long after world war ii surging in popularity. >> and what changed that in the 1950s was television. television made it possible for football fans everywhere to follow professional football and it also opened it up a game for people who had no connection whatsoever with the universities. >> reporter: tv turned it into big league entertainment with slow-motion replays, cute cheerleaders and superstar athletes. today pro football has by far no more fans than any other american sport and each super bowl is a record breaker even before the kickoff. tom foreman, cnn, looking for tickets in washington. coming up, what's a super bowl party without $65,000 worth

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time now for "the ridiculist." two employees broke in and stole, wait for it, $65,000 worth of chicken wings. police say the two guys rented a truck, backed it up to the bay doors and used a forklift to load up ten pallets of frozen chicken wings. think about that. $65,000 worth of hot wings. see, they are hot wings because they were stolen. i kid. never mind. i cannot even really conceptualize how many chicken wings you get for $65,000, other than apparently you need a forklift to do it.

luckily a reporter was nice enough to break it down for us. >> reporter: this type of tyson wings is $10. that's $65,000 worth of chicken divided by $12.50 times five, that's 26,000 pounds of frozen chicken wings. >> 26,000 pounds. it begs the question why. >> did they uncover the chicken wings? is it a total loss. >> $65,000 worth of chicken wings? it sounds like a well-planned heist. >> 26,000 pounds of chicken wings. that's one super bowl party. chicken wings are at an all-time

high price. 26,000 pounds of stolen wings, it seems poultry seems paltry in comparison. thank you very much. i'll be here all week. maybe they were trying to realize a dream of hooters. do you know that you're eating chicken wings the wrong way? apparently the way to get the most out of your chicken wing is not to cram it sloppily, you're supposed to debone it. but take it from an expert. >> you pick up a wing on either end and pull in opposite directions. give it a little twist, find the two remaining bones, twist and pull. and viola, hooters. >> that's my gift from me to you. before you get down with a billion chicken wings this weekend. now you can t